Crash - Stryker/Brinker RPG Games

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daniel_spain
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Re: Crash - Stryker/Brinker RPG Games

Post by daniel_spain »

Karl Childers wrote:
> daniel_spain wrote:
> >
> > can you send the bottom part of the log. i need to see the exceptions.
>
> I will get that information to you tonight when I get home from work.
>
> Also, I noticed Zorgon didn't have this problem but I thought it was based off the
> same code.

some SA cracks caused this crash (i am not saying this is your case) and again was a message
display issue with it sending the version with demo attached at the end ie: (1.26-DEMO) and when
it was cracked it tried forcing (1.26-256) in that same space hence causing a crash. now again i am not
saying this was your issue but it made me go look at a lot of crashing addons about 10 years ago and
fixed alot of them by adjusting some message variables even if i didnt have the source code... mutants v4
was one of these addons, and though i couldnt fix them all that way i did manage to fix alot of the display
issues... so Zorgon i may not be able to fix but i can fix all the other addons. i would just need to talk to rick and
see if i can do it or send him the fixes manually. alot of those brinker games came from a different world where
major bbs was way more forgiving than it is now. not sure how he did his quest of the alchemists but on my port
i had to rewrite the entire comrou() function and galactic empire was a nightmare!

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Duckula
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Re: Crash - Stryker/Brinker RPG Games

Post by Duckula »

There are v10 versions of Fazuul and Kyrandia on the elwynor website that fix this issue apparently.

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Karl Childers
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Re: Crash - Stryker/Brinker RPG Games

Post by Karl Childers »

daniel_spain wrote:>
> can you send the bottom part of the log. i need to see the exceptions.

Here you go Daniel. I did try your version of Quest of The Alchemists with MajorBBS V10R32. Same issue. I thought Zorgon was one of Rick's games but I was mistaken. I read that it was based off of Fazuul. Not sure if that meant Fazuul was an inspiration or that it shares some coding. If a WG3.2 version exists, I am curious to check and see. Right now I'm just running a bunch of 14 day demos from Elwynor Technologies, and MajorMUD.


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766F0000 Image 106496 ..\System32\bcrypt.dll 101368 11/14/23 19:27:42
7670A000 Free 24576
76710000 Image 761856 ..\System32\RPCRT4.dll 762888 4/09/24 21:23:53
767CA000 Free 9986048
77150000 Image 307200 ..System32\SHLWAPI.dll 302688 11/14/23 19:27:19
7719B000 Free 20480
771A0000 Image 544768 ..System32\sechost.dll 540304 3/12/24 19:20:46
77225000 Free 45056
77230000 Image 28672 ..OWS\System32\NSI.dll 21728 5/07/22 0:19:35
77237000 Free 36864
77240000 Image 106496 ..\System32\win32u.dll 103320 11/14/23 19:27:39
7725A000 Free 24576
77260000 Image 1044480 ..S\System32\MSCTF.dll 1039832 4/09/24 21:23:55
7735F000 Free 4096
77360000 Image 389120 ..\System32\WS2_32.dll 389440 5/07/22 0:19:48
773BF000 Free 4096
773C0000 Image 40960
773CA000 Free 24576
773D0000 Image 1773568 ..S\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll 1755672 4/09/24 21:23:53
77581000 Free 134606848
7F5E0000 Mapped 1048576
7F6E0000 Private 36864
7F6E9000 Free 28672
7F6F0000 Private 8192
7F6F2000 Free 57344
7F700000 Private 69632
7F711000 Free 61440
7F720000 Private 8192
7F722000 Free 57344
7F730000 Mapped 4096
7F731000 Free 9105408
7FFE0000 Private 4096
7FFE1000 Free 24576
7FFE7000 Private 4096
7FFE8000 Free 32768
Stack:
00FCF560 0000000E 00000000 >00FCF588< 068015B6 ................
00FCF570 00D8EA64 0000000E 00000005 00D5928A d...............
00FCF580 00000003 00D5E645 >00FCF5D8< 00D5CB45 ....E.......E...
00FCF590 00000000 00000001 01129000 00000001 ................
00FCF5A0 01129000 08000016 00FCF5F8 1000002C ............,...
00FCF5B0 014D74E8 00000800 000003E8 00000100 .tM.............
00FCF5C0 6898800C 014D35A0 00000001 000F4240 ...h.5M.....@B..
00FCF5D0 00000004 7569711E >00FCFDFC< 00D56D2D .....qiu....-m..
00FCF5E0 00000001 00FCFE0C 00D90C84 00D5C3D0 ................
00FCF5F0 00000000 00000000 425C3A43 31565342 ........C:\BBSV1
00FCF600 67770030 76726573 652E7265 01006578 0.wgserver.exe..
00FCF610 014C0270 014C004C 00000000 774605ED p.L.L.L.......Fw
00FCF620 00FCF930 7744EFA0 868B9FBB FFFFFFFE 0.....Dw........
00FCF630 00FCF68C 774605ED 00000000 77460614 ......Fw......Fw
00FCF640 014CD460 014C0000 00000000 014CD250 `.L...L.....P.L.
00FCF650 014C5058 014C0000 00000010 00000064 XPL...L.....d...
00FCF660 00170002 014C4F28 00000000 7744696C ....(OL.....liDw
00FCF670 7745CEE6 000001AC 773D1768 00000002 ..Ew....h.=w....
00FCF680 00FCF694 00000050 014C0000 000000E8 ....P.....L.....
00FCF690 014C8B48 014C0000 7741EB58 014C8B48 H.L...L.X.AwH.L.
00FCF6A0 00000000 7741EF6F F1395AEB 000000E0 ....o.Aw.Z9.....
00FCF6B0 000000E8 014C0000 00007FFF 00002000 ......L...... ..
00FCF6C0 00000000 00000004 02000002 775F81B4 .............._w
00FCF6D0 E80001E9 00000002 29000029 775CAF70 ........)..)p.\w
00FCF6E0 00007FFF F139542B 02000002 7745CEB5 ....+T9.......Ew
00FCF6F0 E80001E9 000001AC 00FCF940 77482793 ........@....'Hw
00FCF700 F1395B83 774FDB30 00000000 01129000 .[9.0.Ow........
00FCF710 002E002C 014C57D4 00FCF870 0000000A ,....WL.p.......
00FCF720 FFFFFE23 0000000C 00000000 014C8B48 #...........H.L.
00FCF730 014C1AA8 0000001B FFFFFE34 00000000 ..L.....4.......
00FCF740 014C6B08 014C1C0A 00000017 00000000 .kL...L.........
00FCF750 014C0294 014C0000 00000017 00FCF774 ..L...L.....t...
00FCF760 7740C424 00000000 00000000 00000000 $.@w............
00FCF770 00000001 00FCF7F4 7740C305 01210000 ..........@w..!.
00FCF780 01210000 00FCF828 00000008 7740C31F ..!.(.........@w
00FCF790 F1395537 00000001 0112CF60 014C8B48 7U9.....`...H.L.
00FCF7A0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCF7B0 00000001 00000000 014C8B48 00000000 ........H.L.....
00FCF7C0 00000000 00000029 00000000 00000000 ....)...........
00FCF7D0 01210000 00000000 00000000 00FCF790 ..!.............
00FCF7E0 00000001 00FCF84C 7744EFA0 868B98DB ....L.....Dw....
00FCF7F0 FFFFFFFE 00FCF85C 7740BD2F 00000001 ....\.../.@w....
00FCF800 00000000 014C8B48 00FCF85C 7740BE91 ....H.L.\.....@w
00FCF810 014C6974 7740BDFF F1395A9F 014C8B48 tiL...@w.Z9.H.L.
00FCF820 014C8B48 00FCF900 00000000 00000000 H.L.............
00FCF830 00000000 014C8B50 00000000 014C8B48 ....P.L.....H.L.
00FCF840 014C8B48 00000001 00FCF900 00FCF898 H.L.............
00FCF850 014C8BC4 868B9B1B 00000001 0AFCF8A8 ..L.............
00FCF860 00FCF8A8 7740BC1D 014C8BC8 7740BC3B ......@w..L.;.@w
00FCF870 F1395A6B 00FCF914 014C8B48 00FCF900 kZ9.....H.L.....
00FCF880 00000000 00000000 014C8B48 00000000 ........H.L.....
00FCF890 00FCF870 00000008 00FCF980 774482FC p.............Dw
00FCF8A0 7740C6A7 000000D4 00000003 00FCF8B4 ..@w............
00FCF8B0 00000004 00000001 00FCF8D0 7740BB91 ..............@w
00FCF8C0 00FCF914 014C8B48 00FCF93C 014C8B48 ....H.L.<...H.L.
00FCF8D0 00FCF8F8 7740BA00 00000000 00FCF914 ......@w........
00FCF8E0 773D10A8 773D10A0 774FDB30 00000000 ..=w..=w0.Ow....
00FCF8F0 00002000 014C6948 00FCF940 77408E48 . ..HiL.@...H.@w
00FCF900 00FCF93C 774AE820 00000000 00FCF914 <... .Jw........
00FCF910 00000000 00000003 014C6948 00000000 ........HiL.....
00FCF920 774468DC 7745CB8F 0000005C 00000000 .hDw..Ew\.......
00FCF930 774FDB30 00000000 774FDB30 00FCF990 0.Ow....0.Ow....
00FCF940 7744851C 7742E09B F1395B53 773D0000 ..Dw..BwS[9...=w
00FCF950 014C0000 00000448 014D70A0 01129028 ..L.H....pM.(...
00FCF960 00000000 00FCFAF0 7741EB3C 7741EF6F ........<.Awo.Aw
00FCF970 F1395833 00000440 00000448 014C0000 3X9.@...H.....L.
00FCF980 FFFFFFFF 7744EFA0 868BE293 FFFFFFFE ......Dw........
00FCF990 00FCFBC8 7745CC63 2E00002E 773D0000 ....c.Ew......=w
00FCF9A0 7745CC7A 00000000 00000000 00000000 z.Ew............
00FCF9B0 02000002 00000000 E80001E9 00000000 ................
00FCF9C0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCF9D0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCF9E0 00000000 00000000 00000132 00000160 ........2...`...
00FCF9F0 00000000 014D70A0 00000000 00000087 .....pM.........
00FCFA00 FFFFFEA0 00000000 00000000 014C1CE2 ..............L.
00FCFA10 00000000 00000000 00000000 014C0000 ..............L.
00FCFA20 00000000 00000000 00000000 000007FF ................
00FCFA30 014C00C0 014C2C30 00000000 000001E9 ..L.0,L.........
00FCFA40 014C0000 00000448 00000000 00000000 ..L.H...........
00FCFA50 00000000 00000169 00000000 00000000 ....i...........
00FCFA60 00000000 00000800 014C0001 00000001 ..........L.....
00FCFA70 01000100 002C0002 014D7098 014D7098 ......,..pM..pM.
00FCFA80 00000000 00000000 00000000 000001E9 ................
00FCFA90 014D70A0 00000000 00000000 00010000 .pM.............
00FCFAA0 00000000 00000380 00000000 000007FF ................
00FCFAB0 014C0000 2E00002E 000000E0 00000089 ..L.............
00FCFAC0 00805844 00000160 00000160 014C2BE0 DX..`...`....+L.
00FCFAD0 014D709F 014C2BE0 00000104 00000000 .pM..+L.........
00FCFAE0 00FCFE38 7744EFA0 868B9F9B FFFFFFFE 8.....Dw........
00FCFAF0 00FCFB80 7741D092 00000440 00000448 ......Aw@...H...
00FCFB00 014C2D18 00FCFB50 00D8A91A 014C0000 .-L.P.........L.
00FCFB10 00000000 FFFFFFFF 75805740 00000104 ........@W.u....
00FCFB20 00000000 00000000 77446A4C 7644695E ........LjDw^iDv
00FCFB30 FFFFFFFF 00D8A91A 00000000 00FCFB8C ................
00FCFB40 0000001C 77446A4C 00000000 FFFFFFFF ....LjDw........
00FCFB50 00D8A91A 00D8A91A 014D70A0 00000212 .........pM.....
00FCFB60 00000089 00D8A91A 00000440 002C0000 ........@.....,.
00FCFB70 014C0000 00000000 01000000 000A0000 ..L.............
00FCFB80 00FCFB9C 7741C08E 002C0000 00000000 ......Aw..,.....
00FCFB90 00D8A91A B67C0000 014D72C0 00000020 ......|..rM. ...
00FCFBA0 00000001 00FCFDE4 76446886 49A5AA42 .........hDvB..I
00FCFBB0 00D8A20F 00D8E634 00D8E638 8CED7A44 ....4...8...Dz..
00FCFBC0 00D30000 000A0000 01000000 00580056 ............V.X.
00FCFBD0 00FCFBD4 0044005C 00760065 00630069 ....\.D.e.v.i.c.
00FCFBE0 005C0065 00610048 00640072 00690064 e.\.H.a.r.d.d.i.
00FCFBF0 006B0073 006F0056 0075006C 0065006D s.k.V.o.l.u.m.e.
00FCFC00 005C0033 00420042 00560053 00300031 3.\.B.B.S.V.1.0.
00FCFC10 0077005C 00730067 00720065 00650076 \.w.g.s.e.r.v.e.
00FCFC20 002E0072 00780065 00000065 014C004C r...e.x.e...L.L.
00FCFC30 014C8737 00000001 00000000 00000000 7.L.............
00FCFC40 00FCFD98 7744EFA0 868B9F9B FFFFFFFE ......Dw........
00FCFC50 00FCFCE0 7741D092 00000080 00000088 ......Aw........
00FCFC60 014C02E8 00FCFCB0 00000000 014C0000 ..L...........L.
00FCFC70 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFC80 00000000 0000002B 00000053 0000002B ....+...S...+...
00FCFC90 0000002B 00000000 00000000 01129000 +...............
00FCFCA0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFCB0 00000003 00000088 00000202 00FCFEC4 ................
00FCFCC0 00000011 0000027F 00000080 00000000 ................
00FCFCD0 00000020 00160016 014D4C28 014D4D90 .......(LM..MM.
00FCFCE0 7741D041 014D4D90 00000000 00000020 A.Aw.MM..... ...
00FCFCF0 00000000 014C0000 00000001 00FCFD1C ......L.........
00FCFD00 7572F6D8 014C0000 00000000 00000080 ..ru..L.........
00FCFD10 00000028 013407D0 01340000 00FCFD30 (.....4...4.0...
00FCFD20 00000000 00000080 014C5120 00000000 ........ QL.....
00FCFD30 00000000 014C8738 00000002 00000028 ....8.L.....(...
00FCFD40 013401CC 00000000 00000005 01340000 ..4...........4.
00FCFD50 014C4B37 014D4DAC 00000070 01340D64 7KL..MM.p...d.4.
00FCFD60 00D8E640 00FCFD88 7573EC80 00000000 @.........su....
00FCFD70 014D4DAC 014D4D00 0000001D 75804060 .MM..MM.....`@.u
00FCFD80 014D1808 00FCFD00 00FCFDB4 7573EC59 ..M.........Y.su
00FCFD90 00000000 00000004 7573EC01 00000000 ..........su....
00FCFDA0 00000040 00FCFDBC 7641FC7B 77430609 @.......{.Av..Cw
00FCFDB0 00000000 014C4B2F 00000072 00FCFE0C ..../KL.r.......
00FCFDC0 00D8A8AF 00FCFDEC 7573EC80 00000000 ..........su....
00FCFDD0 014C4B2F 01129000 00000000 75804060 /KL.........`@.u
00FCFDE0 014D1808 00000000 00000000 00FCFDFC ..M.............
00FCFDF0 757E1223 00000000 D441DD02 >00FCFE48< #.~u......A.H...
00FCFE00 00D8A319 00D30000 00000000 014C4B31 ............1KL.
00FCFE10 00000001 D441DEB6 00D8A39D 00D8A39D ......A.........
00FCFE20 01129000 00000000 C0000005 00000000 ................
00FCFE30 00FCFE14 00FCEF60 00FCFEA0 00D8A3DB ....`...........
00FCFE40 D464743E 00000000 >00FCFE58< 75B67BA9 >td.....X....{.u
00FCFE50 01129000 75B67B90 >00FCFEB0< 7743BE3B .....{.u....;.Cw
00FCFE60 01129000 F1395C73 00000000 00000000 ....s\9.........
00FCFE70 01129000 C0000005 76513160 3E1805D5 ........`1Qv...>
00FCFE80 C02EA9F0 00000000 00000000 00FCEF6C ............l...
00FCFE90 484934B5 00000000 00FCFE64 00FCEF6C .4IH....d...l...
00FCFEA0 00FCFEB8 7744EFA0 868BE163 00000000 ......Dwc.......
00FCFEB0 >00FCFEC0< 7743BDBF FFFFFFFF 774693C3 ......Cw......Fw
00FCFEC0 >00000000< 00000000 00D8A39D 01129000 ................
00FCFED0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFEE0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFEF0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFF00 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFF10 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFF20 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFF30 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFF40 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFF50 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFF60 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFF70 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFF80 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFF90 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFFA0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFFB0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFFC0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFFD0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFFE0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FCFFF0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00FD0000 -------- -------- -------- -------- ----------------
Routines:
01F8402C _strlwr < 01F84043 < 01F84050 _strupr
0680115C _init__gplqa < 068015B6 < 06816ED4 __DebuggerHookData
00D5C320 _lonstf < 00D5CB45 < 00D5D1F0 _ningrp
00D567A0 _loscar < 00D56D2D < 00D56D40 _absdtdy
00D89E10 _registerDSModule < 00D8A319 < 00D8ACD0 _allhex
75B67B90 BaseThreadInitThunk < 75B67BA9 < 75B67CA0 CompareStringOrdinal
7743BDD0 RtlInitializeExcepti < 7743BE3B < 7743BF60 RtlAreBitsSet
7743BD00 RtlClearBits < 7743BDBF < 7743BDD0 RtlInitializeExcepti
00000000 Unknown < 00000000 < 00000000 Unknown

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Re: Crash - Stryker/Brinker RPG Games

Post by daniel_spain »

Karl Childers wrote:
> daniel_spain wrote:>
> > can you send the bottom part of the log. i need to see the exceptions.
>
> Here you go Daniel. I did try your version of Quest of The Alchemists with MajorBBS
> V10R32. Same issue. I thought Zorgon was one of Rick's games but I was mistaken. I
> read that it was based off of Fazuul. Not sure if that meant Fazuul was an
> inspiration or that it shares some coding. If a WG3.2 version exists, I am curious
> to check and see. Right now I'm just running a bunch of 14 day demos from Elwynor
> Technologies, and MajorMUD.
>
>
>

odd... wonder what m10 does in the inp routines that changed from the wg3 stuff... i will
research this further this evening. you said my GPLQA did it as well?

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Karl Childers
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Re: Crash - Stryker/Brinker RPG Games

Post by Karl Childers »

daniel_spain wrote:
>
> odd... wonder what m10 does in the inp routines that changed from the wg3 stuff... i
> will
> research this further this evening. you said my GPLQA did it as well?

Yes. The log above is actually from your GPLQA. It does it with Rick's too, and according to Blaz, it does it with the original Galacticomm version as well.

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Frank Dux
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Re: Crash - Stryker/Brinker RPG Games

Post by Frank Dux »

I have previously reached out to Questman regarding some of the "Peyennuu Series" issues occurring under MBBSv10; from hitting enter on a blank Quest For Magic user name, Quest for Sorcery generating an access violation on cleanup (not shutdown) and the other one that brings the board down if you view the doc online. These aren't repeatable within a WG3.x environment.

I appreciate he has his work cut out for him but feel his recent announcement regarding the open sourcing of the modules (once target is met) is a great step forward for the community as a whole.

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