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Is their anyone doing any java aps for Worldgroup?

I'd like to redo the whole thing in Java.

Let's start that. Lets will post any Conversions we make and maybe get some intrest in it. Ive been wirking with a kid doing a Runescape clone... all java their.. works pretty good too.

efgosser wrote:Let's start that. Lets will post any Conversions we make and maybe get some intrest in it. Ive been wirking with a kid doing a Runescape clone... all java their.. works pretty good too.

i been doing something similiar in .net (c#)

The main issue with a Java re-write is:

- Do we keep the terminal mode; and if so
- Do we have a compatibility layer to run the old C++ DLLs?

If we can lick that, then it's a worthwhile endeavor.

I do not like .NET at all. Java is bad enough from an OO perspective (it's not as good as Smalltalk) but MS ... MS is irresponsible.

Questman wrote:The main issue with a Java re-write is:

- Do we keep the terminal mode; and if so
- Do we have a compatibility layer to run the old C++ DLLs?

If we can lick that, then it's a worthwhile endeavor.

I do not like .NET at all. Java is bad enough from an OO perspective (it's not as good as Smalltalk) but MS ... MS is irresponsible.

terminal mode, why not make something on a web page that launched an applet for the interaction using the login params passed to it?

so if i wanna play "MajorMUD" i click the majormud link and it opens a page with a telnet applet.
all login would be held from the web side abd it could just pass info to an applet which would launch.

active-java web pages to replace active-html...javascript?



as far as .net i just play with it, im gonna make a trivia server sort of like FW thats stand alone just to get my feet wet, im prolly gonna go by the way of XML for configuration options and SQL-lite for databasing.
for a complete server i dunno if .net would be wise but for just a game server, seemed the best way to go.
i played with some java muds and most seemed a bit sluggish.

Java (not applet, but in and of itself) has enterprise class speed these days and has for quite some time. It could certainly perform as well as an engine written in C++.

Not sure on the applet thing - applets are a bit pase - and people are understandably hesitant to let anything run on their browsers that they don't understand.

There are ways to do terminal mode natively in the browser. It's a bit of a hack but it can work. Something to explore.

Questman wrote:Java (not applet, but in and of itself) has enterprise class speed these days and has for quite some time. It could certainly perform as well as an engine written in C++.

Not sure on the applet thing - applets are a bit pase - and people are understandably hesitant to let anything run on their browsers that they don't understand.

There are ways to do terminal mode natively in the browser. It's a bit of a hack but it can work. Something to explore.

yeah anything like that would work, as the generations are getting younger more and more people are not gonna know about 'telnet' or 'rlogin' and such so i figured if ya made it open in the web page would be more likely everyone would access it.

dspain wrote:

Questman wrote:The main issue with a Java re-write is:

- Do we keep the terminal mode; and if so
- Do we have a compatibility layer to run the old C++ DLLs?

If we can lick that, then it's a worthwhile endeavor.

I do not like .NET at all. Java is bad enough from an OO perspective (it's not as good as Smalltalk) but MS ... MS is irresponsible.

terminal mode, why not make something on a web page that launched an applet for the interaction using the login params passed to it?

so if i wanna play "MajorMUD" i click the majormud link and it opens a page with a telnet applet.
all login would be held from the web side abd it could just pass info to an applet which would launch.

active-java web pages to replace active-html...javascript?



as far as .net i just play with it, im gonna make a trivia server sort of like FW thats stand alone just to get my feet wet, im prolly gonna go by the way of XML for configuration options and SQL-lite for databasing.
for a complete server i dunno if .net would be wise but for just a game server, seemed the best way to go.
i played with some java muds and most seemed a bit sluggish.

What would all the mudder's do without their Megamud or other term programs.
Is thier not more possible uses for the software with an embeded SQL capability?
Why not just add capabilty for a sysop to use Java and or SQL and keep the underlying system with updated btrieve.
I realize this would be a sh*tload of work but it would give a sysop a few various ways of doing things.

Stoneslinger76 wrote:

dspain wrote:

Questman wrote:The main issue with a Java re-write is:

- Do we keep the terminal mode; and if so
- Do we have a compatibility layer to run the old C++ DLLs?

If we can lick that, then it's a worthwhile endeavor.

I do not like .NET at all. Java is bad enough from an OO perspective (it's not as good as Smalltalk) but MS ... MS is irresponsible.

terminal mode, why not make something on a web page that launched an applet for the interaction using the login params passed to it?

so if i wanna play "MajorMUD" i click the majormud link and it opens a page with a telnet applet.
all login would be held from the web side abd it could just pass info to an applet which would launch.

active-java web pages to replace active-html...javascript?



as far as .net i just play with it, im gonna make a trivia server sort of like FW thats stand alone just to get my feet wet, im prolly gonna go by the way of XML for configuration options and SQL-lite for databasing.
for a complete server i dunno if .net would be wise but for just a game server, seemed the best way to go.
i played with some java muds and most seemed a bit sluggish.

What would all the mudder's do without their Megamud or other term programs.
Is thier not more possible uses for the software with an embeded SQL capability?
Why not just add capabilty for a sysop to use Java and or SQL and keep the underlying system with updated btrieve.
I realize this would be a sh*tload of work but it would give a sysop a few various ways of doing things.

you referring to basically a web version that interacts with the terminal mode?
the web-teleconference does that.

dspain wrote:yeah anything like that would work, as the generations are getting younger more and more people are not gonna know about 'telnet' or 'rlogin' and such so i figured if ya made it open in the web page would be more likely everyone would access it.

I know its not quite perfect because someone would have to install the C/S Client, but you can launch a C/S Terminal Window and take a User directly into a Module in C/S or Terminal Mode from the Web right now.