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Loculi
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MajorBBS & VMware Workstation 6.0

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Hi,

I'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on my predicament. I've got MajorBBS up and running in a VM on my workstation here, I can telnet in to it just fine from internally and have configured my Cisco PIX 501 to allow telnet connections from outside to the IP I assigned internally to the server.

Here's the setup on the VM:

Windows XP Pro SP2

Bridged network connection using DHCP

MajorBBS is set to its own internal static IP

Windows Firewall on the VM has been completely disabled

Cisco PIX 501 has been configured to allow telnet sessions to the IP assigned to MajorBBS, but not the IP of the VM it resides on

I seem to be unable to assign MajorBBS the same IP as the machine it resides on, is this by design? (if I do, I can't even telnet to it from internally, it shows a connection attempt and then immediately drops it.)

Any help would be most appreciated.

Cheers

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Re: MajorBBS & VMware Workstation 6.0

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Loculi wrote:Hi,

I'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on my predicament. I've got MajorBBS up and running in a VM on my workstation here, I can telnet in to it just fine from internally and have configured my Cisco PIX 501 to allow telnet connections from outside to the IP I assigned internally to the server.

Here's the setup on the VM:

Windows XP Pro SP2

Bridged network connection using DHCP

MajorBBS is set to its own internal static IP

Windows Firewall on the VM has been completely disabled

Cisco PIX 501 has been configured to allow telnet sessions to the IP assigned to MajorBBS, but not the IP of the VM it resides on

I seem to be unable to assign MajorBBS the same IP as the machine it resides on, is this by design? (if I do, I can't even telnet to it from internally, it shows a connection attempt and then immediately drops it.)

Any help would be most appreciated.

Cheers
Is the firewall on your host on or off, and if on, is it allowing a connection on the port to the workstation/host?

By internall connection, you can connect from a seperate PC to the VM on the host pc? But not from outside your router?

TD

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Post by Loculi »

Thanks for the follow up, I discovered the problem. I'm using two different PIX 501 firewalls, one for my computers and one for my VoIP phones. My workstation has both a wireless and wired connection. It turns out that because my wired connection was plugged in via a switch built in to my VoIP phone that it was using my second gateway.

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Post by Toyduck »

Loculi wrote:Thanks for the follow up, I discovered the problem. I'm using two different PIX 501 firewalls, one for my computers and one for my VoIP phones. My workstation has both a wireless and wired connection. It turns out that because my wired connection was plugged in via a switch built in to my VoIP phone that it was using my second gateway.
Glad you got it figured out!

TD

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Post by dspain »

Toyduck wrote:
Loculi wrote:Thanks for the follow up, I discovered the problem. I'm using two different PIX 501 firewalls, one for my computers and one for my VoIP phones. My workstation has both a wireless and wired connection. It turns out that because my wired connection was plugged in via a switch built in to my VoIP phone that it was using my second gateway.
Glad you got it figured out!

TD
is it me or are the bbs's running VMW a bit laggy?
ive never used it but i have been doing some custom work for a few 2.0 bbs's all running under NT via VMW and seems packet transfers are really slow.

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Last night, I installed VMWARE on a test computer... It took me a little while to get use to doing DOS stuff again..... Anyway, I installed DOS 5 then realized that my backups were rar'd.... So, I downloaded a copy of winrar for DOS, command line version...... and copied it to a floppy and then from the floppy to the vmware dos.... Then I had to re-learn how to unzip stuff through command line, to extract in the correct folders, etc......

I did get it working eventually, added some more updated drivers, trying to speed it up a bit more, etc, but they didn't seem to do any good.... Downloaded the amd driver that Questman posted a link to on this site awhile back, etc...

Comparing it to my dual xeon 500mhz server w/xp, it still is quite a bit slower than running it on a real DOS PC at 233mhz... I will try it on a regular 950mhz PC w/win 2000 later on and see if it's any better.... but yes, it loads slower and plays a bit slower too..

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Malakai wrote:Last night, I installed VMWARE on a test computer... It took me a little while to get use to doing DOS stuff again..... Anyway, I installed DOS 5 then realized that my backups were rar'd.... So, I downloaded a copy of winrar for DOS, command line version...... and copied it to a floppy and then from the floppy to the vmware dos.... Then I had to re-learn how to unzip stuff through command line, to extract in the correct folders, etc......

I did get it working eventually, added some more updated drivers, trying to speed it up a bit more, etc, but they didn't seem to do any good.... Downloaded the amd driver that Questman posted a link to on this site awhile back, etc...

Comparing it to my dual xeon 500mhz server w/xp, it still is quite a bit slower than running it on a real DOS PC at 233mhz... I will try it on a regular 950mhz PC w/win 2000 later on and see if it's any better.... but yes, it loads slower and plays a bit slower too..
from my experience as just connecting to bbs's running these setups i agree with you it is more laggy than running in a normal dos enviroment.
i think even with your 950 you'll experience similiar lag issues.
try changing the uart from AUTO to 38400, that should increase it locally by a hair but i think the remote connections will still suffer.

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Post by Malakai »

Surprisingly, both major bbs for DOS and and worldgroup NT both work at the same time on a PC, using the dos version with vmware and the nt version just installed on the host. On the same server, it does take about 4x as long for the DOS version to load while the nt version is loaded, and there are some pretty big amounts of lag, but the longer they're online, the less they become for some reason. So, it is possible, although probably not worth what you lose by running both..

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